Ties,regimental,university,college, club.

**Bugbear** · 19th August 09, 05:06 PM

I understand that tartan ties are wrong and taboo, but is anything wrong with tweed ties?
* Pictures of tweed tie removed. *

**Jock Scot** · 19th August 09, 09:52 PM

Nothing wrong with tweed ties Ted. Somewhat perversely I prefer plain tweed. I don't know where this "no tartan above the waist" saying came from, but I am not a fan of tartan ties worn with the kilt, or with trousers. Of course there are fans of the tartan waistcoat too, they are not for me, but they certainly make a statement.

**beloitpiper** · 19th August 09, 10:04 PM

Well, I enjoy wearing ties. I inherited all of my grandfathers ties. There are probably 50+ of them, and most are silk. However, the the ties I wear the most are my Gordon tartan, Beloit College tie, and solid black.

**Bugbear** · 19th August 09, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Nothing wrong with tweed ties Ted. Somewhat perversely I prefer plain tweed. I don't know where this "no tartan above the waist" saying came from, but I am not a fan of tartan ties worn with the kilt, or with trousers. Of course there are fans of the tartan waistcoat too, they are not for me, but they certainly make a statement.

Well... the phrase "it's too cuntry club" gets tossed around a lot. I was having a difficult time understanding why a tartan tie is so aughful, while a tartan waistcoat is just fine. Sounds like this is all coming down to one's own personal preferences rather than some kind of rule.

BTW, I've read a lot of negative things about tarten or patterned waistcoats, like tweed, being worn with trousers and suits. I've done web searches on that and come across these "it's country club," type statements. I, for the life of me, don't understand what the problem is, unless the pattern is too busy or weird.

**Jock Scot** · 19th August 09, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Ted Crocker

Well... the phrase "it's too cuntry club" gets tossed around a lot. I was having a difficult time understanding why a tartan tie is so aughful, while a tartan waistcoat is just fine. Sounds like this is all coming down to one's own personal preferences rather than some kind of rule.

BTW, I've read a lot of negative things about tarten or patterned waistcoats, like tweed, being worn with trousers and suits. I've done web searches on that and come across these "it's country club," type statements. I, for the life of me, don't understand what the problem is, unless the pattern is too busy or weird.

I would not get too wound up about it all Ted, if I were you.

**Stratherrick** · 20th August 09, 12:08 AM

I think tartan ties look peculiar, unless on a page boy aged five at a wedding. Still, each to their own!

Slainte

Bruce

**Sir William** · 20th August 09, 03:22 AM

I like tartan ties and I wear them quite a bit (but not when kilted). On the other hand, I don't much care for tartan waistcoats.

I like the regimental tie look and, as our British cousins have observed, any one tie will go with just about everything regardless of the colors in the tie.

I've seen plenty of Americans wear striped ties, but they are usually just colorful striped ties as a rule, not regimental ties, and only seldom school or club ties. Though I've often seen an American wear a regimental tie (such as the A&S Highlanders once sold by Lands End) but they didn't know that is what it was. American striped ties frequently slant from upper right to lower left, while a British regimental tie slants from upper left to lower right.

**Bugbear** · 20th August 09, 03:45 AM

I have quite a few of the striped ties. As far as I can remember, I only have a couple of solid color ties: a navy blue, and a black. I also have a burgundy bow tie that a family member gave to me not too long ago.

Some of my ties have a few different colors, but are not in a particular patern, more like specks of color woven into the fabric . And I often pick out ties that have a texture or are made of a fabric other than smooth silk or satin.

**Jock Scot** · 20th August 09, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Sir William

I like tartan ties and I wear them quite a bit (but not when kilted). On the other hand, I don't much care for tartan waistcoats.

I like the regimental tie look and, as our British cousins have observed, any one tie will go with just about everything regardless of the colors in the tie.

I've seen plenty of Americans wear striped ties, but they are usually just colorful striped ties as a rule, not regimental ties, and only seldom school or club ties. Though I've often seen an American wear a regimental tie (such as the A&S Highlanders once sold by Lands End) but they didn't know that is what it was. American striped ties frequently slant from upper right to lower left, while a British regimental tie slants from upper left to lower right.

I note your comments on the slope of the British style regimental/club style ties and I should point out that there are, should anyone be surprised, exceptions! Off the top of my head, the Intelligence Corps, Queens Royal Lancers, Royal Marines and the Royal Air Force ties, slope the other way. No doubt that there are others, however in general, you are correct.

**dfmacliam** · 20th August 09, 04:58 AM

I had noticed the slant differences too. The Regimental ties, with all them on the same site, you can quickly pick out the American ones..but I still believe I will get the Marine one.. Now just find a site that does not try to kill you on shipping...lol I have paid less to ship a kilt than what they want to ship a silk tie..