Celtic Crest

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Mark Harden has ascended to the barony, though. His dad stepped aside and passed the title on to his son -- at least this is my understanding from speaking with Mark (who lives relatively close to me, so I get to see him at many functions).

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Quite correct Mat as far as the Barony is concerned but his father is still the owner of the arms, as the arms were granted to him and he is still alive. Mark cant use them undifferenced until he snuffs it. So he uses the arms of his father by courtesy differenced by a three point label.

Hi Scott, Chieftains can wear 2 feathers but not Feudal Barons, I know some do as they try to legitimise the wearing of 2 feathers by saying most Chieftains were historicaly Laird or Feudal Barons which is quite true, however unless they have been recognised by Lyon as a Chieftain they are not suppose to.